Waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too much work if u ask
me. if ui want to ride a coaster just go to an amusement park
Backyard Ride
Started by
Shamu
, Jul 05 2004 09:49 AM
89 replies to this topic
#82
jmrtc89
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Posted 28 December 2004 - 10:33 PM
don't need permits and crap for the one I'm designing, it is totaly a terrian
woodie. It doesn't get more than 3 feet off the ground, yet has a ~20ft drop.
Hopefully, as I do live in California, that permit stuff only applies to somthing over one
story.
For amusment rides such
as your own, you need a ton of permit stuff...heres a handful of such, not even
touching core construction practices: http://www.dir.ca.go...h/AROffices.htm
#83
CostaKid
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Son Of Phantom
Posted 29 December 2004 - 12:58 AM
^Oh well. I just won't let other people ride it.
Go Broncos!
#84
Tyrant
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Posted 29 December 2004 - 01:38 AM
Trust me, you need to apply for permits to build
ANYTHING. My dad is part of the sub-divison planning commitee, and since he has
an engineering background, many permits come through him. You need permits to
build something as big as a new add-on to a house, to something smaller such as a
Jacuzzi. And you need real drawings, like AutoCAD, not pencil sketches showing that
what you are installing is in complinence with state and federal construction
procedures and guidelines. Even if no one else will ride it.
-Tyrant
ANYTHING. My dad is part of the sub-divison planning commitee, and since he has
an engineering background, many permits come through him. You need permits to
build something as big as a new add-on to a house, to something smaller such as a
Jacuzzi. And you need real drawings, like AutoCAD, not pencil sketches showing that
what you are installing is in complinence with state and federal construction
procedures and guidelines. Even if no one else will ride it.
-Tyrant
#85
Adam_Deux
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Posted 29 December 2004 - 07:54 AM
Yeah, that cancels everything I had planned. My dad
just said no.
My
life is wasted. I'll never be happy again.
Ooh, are those
donuts?!?!?!?!
-Adam
"I'm Not Takin' It Too Harsh" L.
just said no.
My
life is wasted. I'll never be happy again.
Ooh, are those
donuts?!?!?!?!
-Adam
"I'm Not Takin' It Too Harsh" L.
Penn State University - Civil Engineering '11
#86
CostaKid
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Son Of Phantom
Posted 29 December 2004 - 12:24 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tyrant@Dec 28 2004, 10:38
PM
[b]Trust me, you need to apply
for permits to build ANYTHING. My dad is part of the sub-divison planning
commitee, and since he has an engineering background, many permits come through
him. You need permits to build something as big as a new add-on to a house, to
something smaller such as a Jacuzzi. And you need real drawings, like AutoCAD, not
pencil sketches showing that what you are installing is in complinence with state and
federal construction procedures and guidelines. Even if no one else will ride
it.
-Tyrant
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I already have it pretty much finished in AutoCAD
right now. But, I might be looking at making it steel if I could find a place where I
could rent a pipe bender cheap, or find a place that has one that I could use. I know
my grandpa has one, but I think that it is a pinch bender, for stuff like mufflers, not a
roll bender, for the soft curves of a rollercoaster.
As for getting the permits
and stuff, if I find that my project might happen, and I need the permits to make it
legal, then I'll go through that. I live out in the middle of no where, so getting the
permits will be easier.
I was looking at the DOSH website, and came
across this:
(4) Permanent amusement rides operated at a private event that
is not open to the general public and not subject to a separate admission fee.
This was in a list of things that getting a permit (at least for a permanent amuesment
ride) is not needed for. So, as long as I dont let the general public ride (is that including
my family?) and don't charge admission, then I think I might be ok. Now
I'm sure its much more complicated than that, but we have added many buildings
on to our property with very mininal permits, if any. The companies that built them
might have delt with those, I don't know, but I'm still looking into this
thing.
Besides DOSH, what would I have to run through the County or
City? Because if I have to run a lot through the city, then I'll just give up now. It
is so bad, than on the main road of the city, the traffic lights have been out of sink for
like 5 years. Also, when a couch was dumped on our road, it took the city a month to
come and get it. Also, it has taken the city a couple of years to pave at least part of
our road (and it still hasn't happened).
PM
[b]Trust me, you need to apply
for permits to build ANYTHING. My dad is part of the sub-divison planning
commitee, and since he has an engineering background, many permits come through
him. You need permits to build something as big as a new add-on to a house, to
something smaller such as a Jacuzzi. And you need real drawings, like AutoCAD, not
pencil sketches showing that what you are installing is in complinence with state and
federal construction procedures and guidelines. Even if no one else will ride
it.
-Tyrant
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I already have it pretty much finished in AutoCAD
right now. But, I might be looking at making it steel if I could find a place where I
could rent a pipe bender cheap, or find a place that has one that I could use. I know
my grandpa has one, but I think that it is a pinch bender, for stuff like mufflers, not a
roll bender, for the soft curves of a rollercoaster.
As for getting the permits
and stuff, if I find that my project might happen, and I need the permits to make it
legal, then I'll go through that. I live out in the middle of no where, so getting the
permits will be easier.
I was looking at the DOSH website, and came
across this:
(4) Permanent amusement rides operated at a private event that
is not open to the general public and not subject to a separate admission fee.
This was in a list of things that getting a permit (at least for a permanent amuesment
ride) is not needed for. So, as long as I dont let the general public ride (is that including
my family?) and don't charge admission, then I think I might be ok. Now
I'm sure its much more complicated than that, but we have added many buildings
on to our property with very mininal permits, if any. The companies that built them
might have delt with those, I don't know, but I'm still looking into this
thing.
Besides DOSH, what would I have to run through the County or
City? Because if I have to run a lot through the city, then I'll just give up now. It
is so bad, than on the main road of the city, the traffic lights have been out of sink for
like 5 years. Also, when a couch was dumped on our road, it took the city a month to
come and get it. Also, it has taken the city a couple of years to pave at least part of
our road (and it still hasn't happened).
Go Broncos!
#87
Tyrant
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Lead Engineer
Posted 29 December 2004 - 04:11 PM
I would go through the county, seems most
reasonable....
About the CAD drawings, do you have everything specified
such as the proper measurements, materials, construction techniques, etc?
The General public is anyone consdiered outside the "private event", by
private event they mean things like fairs, parties, etc....
-Tyrant
reasonable....
About the CAD drawings, do you have everything specified
such as the proper measurements, materials, construction techniques, etc?
The General public is anyone consdiered outside the "private event", by
private event they mean things like fairs, parties, etc....
-Tyrant
#88
CostaKid
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Son Of Phantom
Posted 29 December 2004 - 10:24 PM
^With the cad drawings, I have one (as simple half
pipe model) in full 3d, which is hard to do in AutoCAD.
But my terrian
woodie (the real one I'm looking at making) is textured with wood, steel, and
other stuff, but only in the 3 views mode. I don't have the time to model the thing
in 3d with all of the terrian and such. I don't currently have the train modeled, I
need to get to that done. I also have the correct measurements, but in a few places,
they are off a few inches or so. For instance, I couldn't ever get the hill modeled
correctly in AutoCAD, unless I had no life. So, I just kinda roughed it in.
Again, I still want to get make it steel. It would be very easy to do (trust me, it
would be just as easy as wood for me), yet a bit more expensive (with having to rent a
pipe bender and such).
I figure, I should just build it. Nobody would care
(at least around where I live). It would just be for fun anyway. I'll have to take it
down in a year or so anyway (going to college).
As of now, I'm
looking for materials (like rolling stock and such). I have a bunch of polyurithane
wheels, (skateboards, scooters, rollerblades) I wonder if I could just mix and match.
Anyway, even though its probably just a pipe dream, its still fun to plan.
pipe model) in full 3d, which is hard to do in AutoCAD.
But my terrian
woodie (the real one I'm looking at making) is textured with wood, steel, and
other stuff, but only in the 3 views mode. I don't have the time to model the thing
in 3d with all of the terrian and such. I don't currently have the train modeled, I
need to get to that done. I also have the correct measurements, but in a few places,
they are off a few inches or so. For instance, I couldn't ever get the hill modeled
correctly in AutoCAD, unless I had no life. So, I just kinda roughed it in.
Again, I still want to get make it steel. It would be very easy to do (trust me, it
would be just as easy as wood for me), yet a bit more expensive (with having to rent a
pipe bender and such).
I figure, I should just build it. Nobody would care
(at least around where I live). It would just be for fun anyway. I'll have to take it
down in a year or so anyway (going to college).
As of now, I'm
looking for materials (like rolling stock and such). I have a bunch of polyurithane
wheels, (skateboards, scooters, rollerblades) I wonder if I could just mix and match.
Anyway, even though its probably just a pipe dream, its still fun to plan.
Go Broncos!
#89
Tyrant
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Lead Engineer
Posted 29 December 2004 - 10:28 PM
Now that I can agree with, it IS fun to plan out big
projects like that. Not only that, good experience too....
As for the hill, you
can buy a surverying setup rather cheaply (like around $40-$50) to
survey the land. Or you could try obtaining your house's blueprints, as they
would have the terrain on it.....
-Tyrant
projects like that. Not only that, good experience too....
As for the hill, you
can buy a surverying setup rather cheaply (like around $40-$50) to
survey the land. Or you could try obtaining your house's blueprints, as they
would have the terrain on it.....
-Tyrant
#90
CostaKid
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Son Of Phantom
Posted 29 December 2004 - 10:55 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Tyrant@Dec 29 2004, 07:28
PM
[b]Now that I can agree with, it
IS fun to plan out big projects like that. Not only that, good experience
too....
As for the hill, you can buy a surverying setup rather cheaply (like
around $40-$50) to survey the land. Or you could try obtaining your
house's blueprints, as they would have the terrain on
it.....
-Tyrant
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Thats pretty cheap. It might come in handy later as
well. I'll look into it.
As for blue prints, I doubt we have them. The
house is as old as me, and even if we did have the blueprints, after years of erosion,
landscaping, building, demolishing, ect., I'm sure that the land would be quite
different.
Just to give you a little mental image of what I'm working
with: our property (about 2.6 acres) is divided into two sections. The upper lot (with
the house) and the lower lot (a large flat piece of land). Both areas are littered with
other buildings, storage sheds, horse pens, ect. I have a lot of land to build with though.
So basicaly the coaster runs from the upper lot to the lower lot, does a 180 turn, and
goes back up the hill. I want to expand the layout, and making it steel would allow me
to do that. Possibly steel with a wooden super structure. Anway, the hill is about 23 ft
tall, at about 20 degrees, but I believe those measurements are off. I used the little
stairs going down the hill to measure the length and height measurements to get the
angle, but I think that the measurements are off. Anyway, the surveying equipment
would come in handy.
PM
[b]Now that I can agree with, it
IS fun to plan out big projects like that. Not only that, good experience
too....
As for the hill, you can buy a surverying setup rather cheaply (like
around $40-$50) to survey the land. Or you could try obtaining your
house's blueprints, as they would have the terrain on
it.....
-Tyrant
d--></div>
Thats pretty cheap. It might come in handy later as
well. I'll look into it.
As for blue prints, I doubt we have them. The
house is as old as me, and even if we did have the blueprints, after years of erosion,
landscaping, building, demolishing, ect., I'm sure that the land would be quite
different.
Just to give you a little mental image of what I'm working
with: our property (about 2.6 acres) is divided into two sections. The upper lot (with
the house) and the lower lot (a large flat piece of land). Both areas are littered with
other buildings, storage sheds, horse pens, ect. I have a lot of land to build with though.
So basicaly the coaster runs from the upper lot to the lower lot, does a 180 turn, and
goes back up the hill. I want to expand the layout, and making it steel would allow me
to do that. Possibly steel with a wooden super structure. Anway, the hill is about 23 ft
tall, at about 20 degrees, but I believe those measurements are off. I used the little
stairs going down the hill to measure the length and height measurements to get the
angle, but I think that the measurements are off. Anyway, the surveying equipment
would come in handy.
Go Broncos!
