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#1 RollercoasterC

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:01 AM

G'day peoples,

i have nearly

finished my new coaster called stairway to hevean

i will be having a 90º lift

hill and a 90º drop, 1 heartline roll and maybe a loop if it has enough speed

post what you think and any comments on how to make the speed last longer

thanks

Carlo


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#2 RollercoasterC

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:02 AM

Pic 2 (of 3)

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#3 RollercoasterC

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 01:03 AM

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#4 Westside7th

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 09:38 AM

Umm...that turn after the drop would kill you if it was

a real coaster. The coaster looks good for your first but I don't know where you

came up with the name of the coaster; it doesn't seem to fit the whole vertical

drop and lift part. :huh: I would try to smooth out

the transitions and such because the track is a little crooked and rough in spots.

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#5 gforce

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 02:17 PM

Originally posted by Westside7th@Nov 29 2003, 09:38

AM
Umm...that turn after the

drop would kill you if it was a real coaster. The coaster looks good for your

first but I don't know where you came up with the name of the coaster; it

doesn't seem to fit the whole vertical drop and lift part. :huh: I would try to smooth out

the transitions and such because the track is a little crooked and rough in spots.

How could you not know where he

came up with the name? The great Led Zepplin!The coaster looks rough but it

might be your camera.

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#6 sixflagsfreak56

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 04:32 PM

I love that song! Listening to it right now. Great

coaster!


#7 RollercoasterC

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 05:10 PM

Well i've straignened it out a bit on the drop,

and i finished it, it just has a overbanked turn after the roll because i didn't have

enough speed, i will post pics later

cya

Carlo

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#8 Shockwaver

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 07:14 PM

Actually on the way up u should have stairway to

heaven, and on the way down, highway to hell. Since u climb up slowly and go so fast

downward.


#9 ssfan313

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 07:39 PM

Im just wondering how did you come up with the

name?


#10 RollercoasterC

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Posted 29 November 2003 - 08:30 PM

Dunno, my bro was playing the song so i just called

it that

cya

Carlo

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#11 gravitiatic

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 03:15 AM

That lift and drop looks unique, but how the heck

does the chain lift work; its out in the middle of the air. From the look of your supports,

you favor the grey tie connector on the track flex rods. Try experimenting with other

support methods, like in the original SS, to help with a smoother feel and look. Nice

efforts on your first attempt.


#12 RollercoasterC

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 03:43 AM

My chain lift works with great difficulty, I should

soon upload better pics (of the final thing)

cya

Carlo

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#13 RollercoasterC

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Posted 01 December 2003 - 04:04 AM

Uploaded pics (should be completed within 10 min)

under RollercoasterC

cya

Carlo

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#14 GregM

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 02:45 AM

You have a really cool looking design, but I think it

could be smoothed out a bit. Also I would suggest different elements. There are

certain elements that use up energy (more energy than they are worth, IMO) and

those would include upward curves, over banked curves, and barrel/heartline rolls. I

commend you on your effort and I look forward to seeing future models from you.

B)

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#15 RollercoasterC

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 04:21 AM

Thanks for the compliment Greg, just one thing

off topic, you built a crazy coaster (race thru the clouds) i love it alot, eventually i want

to build one like that.

Anyway back on topic, i need some close up pics of

peoples 90º lift hills, because i cant seem to get mine to work anymore

:(. What happends is that the

car rams into the chain then bounces back

Any suggestions peoples?

thanks

Carlo

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#16 Westside7th

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 08:02 AM

Your chain is way to tight when that happend. For a lift

like the one you have, you have to give the chain a lot of slack. However, in doing so,

the motor might not work very well with it. I always use hand cranks because they

are stronger and faster. You need to add more chain links in to loosen it up so it

isn't so tight.

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#17 gravitiatic

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 12:38 PM

The coaster shaped up nice at the end. I love the roll

into the overbanked turn, but I still don't understand the curve/hop-up hill just

after the drop. It looks a little unrealistic. If you made the bottom of the drop a bit

higher, you could then have a banked curve at the same height of the heartline, and

more speed I suppose. The updated pic of the lift helped me understand how it

worked, but try adding a link to the chain (though I bet you've tried it and the

motor skips; it happened to me). But nice work overall and can't wait to check

out your next ride.


#18 GregM

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 01:11 PM

This is my suggestion for solving your lift chain

problem: On your lift, you have a section of track that goes beyond vertical. While

this does look neat and would probably be really unnerving to ride in real life, I would

avoid making such a design on a Screamin Serpent model. If you made you lift track

either all vertical or, better yet, slightly less than vertcal, then your chain would rest

against the track and wouldn't stop your cars from rolling far enough to catch it.

The other problem might be that because the lift is vertical, gravity is pulling the chain

dog down where it won't catch onto the lift. But, I know people have gotten

vertical lifts to work before, so I know it's possible. A good example was

Vertical Velocity (I think that was built be somebody with "sixflags" in

their name, but I don't remember exactly who.)

To the builder of

Vertical Velocity: Is it posted in the gallery?

Thank you also for your

compliment, Rollercoasterc. B)

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#19 RollercoasterC

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 02:28 PM

thanks for your suggestions, i will be trying them

later today

cya

Carlo

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#20 RollercoasterC

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Posted 02 December 2003 - 04:19 PM

I have made the chain looser and now it seems as if

the motor cannot pull up the car.

Anyway just so you dont get confused,

i've modified my motor mount so that i dont have to put my hand inside the

tower each time i want to turn it on

cya

Carlo
p.s. sorry

for double posting

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