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[Maxlaam]

Some religions want women to wear headscarfs or burka's. The women have to do this in public places too. This can cause dangerous situations, and some countries have the so called Identification Law where you have to be able to be recognised in case of an arrest.

1. Are we allowed to make burka's illegal? (We are hurting a religion that way, however take the Identification Law in consideration.)

2. Are we allowed to reject people that wear burka's at schools and other public places? (In Holland many shop owners reject people wearing hoods.)

[Coasteradict]

They should be publicly illegalisided in England IMO. This is because we are a Christian country, not a fewking Muslim country, so shouldn't IMO be able to wear highly vissible religious items, obviously stuff like crosses or whatever they have can be worn though.

Anouther thing i despise is these big fewking mosks they keep building arround the place, when was the last time we built a church for gods sake -.- :no:

I swear in the past 5 years they've built 4, two of them being atleast 6 storeys tall, and one being 100*80m area on the base.

[lazor 22]

I think that if a religion makes a women cover there face then something is screwed up. Everyone is equal.

[The KNex Weasel]

I think a person should be allowed to express his or her religion if he or she wants to, but I don't think they should be mandatory. However, we really can't tell other religions they have to change their policies unless we follow that religion ourselves.

[Old_Hag]

CA, what you said was probably the biggest f***ing hypocritical thing I have ever seen ANYONE say on this site.

Why, just because the country is predominantly Christian, can't they practice their religion? It's perfectly OK for the Christians to worship in the countless churches they already have, but mosques are the worst thing ever created?

Seriously, if you aren't going to respect the rights of others, you don't deserve rights yourself.

1. No, you shouldn't be able to disrespect someones religion--What would you do if the government banned praying?

2.Nobody should be rejected from anywhere unless they have a history of crime or other serious offenses.

On the identification part, briefly taking off the headscarf wouldn't hurt; Unless I'm missing something about their religion.

[Coasteradict]

CA, what you said was probably the biggest f***ing hypocritical thing I have ever seen ANYONE say on this site. How have i contradicted myself? tard

Why, just because the country is predominantly Christian, can't they practice their religion? It's perfectly OK for the Christians to worship in the countless churches they already have, but mosques are the worst thing ever created? Considering that if I were to go build a church in a muslim country it would be torn down the next day? yet they're allowd a mosque ever 1000m?

Seriously, if you aren't going to respect the rights of others, you don't deserve rights yourself. I'm not disrespecting the rights of other people, I'm respecting the fact the the country I live in is Christian, and other people chould also respect that, instead of covering everything but there eyes. people have every right to practice their religion, however in public places that AREN'T to do with that religion, they shouldn't be able to practice that religion if the country's national religion is different from it.

1. No, you shouldn't be able to disrespect someones religion--What would you do if the government banned praying? When did I say they should stop practicing their religion? Tard I was saying publicly they should be allowd to wear heavy religious clothing. How was i disrespecting somebodies religion?

2.Nobody should be rejected from anywhere unless they have a history of crime or other serious offenses.Well duh. However if they can't speak/read/write the language of that country they shouldn't be allowd in as it hinders the country.

On the identification part, briefly taking off the headscarf wouldn't hurt; Unless I'm missing something about their religion.

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[coastergeekrtc]

There's a line there. On one hand you want to uphold the security of the country and it's citizens. The "excessive" clothing hides much of the body and terrorist groups could take advantage of this.

On the other hand no one should be disrespected or have their rights taken away. It is that religion's right to practice and those who follow it should be allowed to roam free without worry.

It seems to me there is no win-win situation or compromise. I do not see the religion restricting their culture. It would be like asking you to not believe in God, if you do, while on government property. Security measures may need to be taken in more public places to guarantee that no one is hiding anything under their clothes. I think that's one of the only solutions.

Coasteraddict, that's ridiculous. Just because England's majority is Christian doesn't mean only Christian events and culture can occupy the public domain. England hasn't declared Christianity as the official religion of the country and they cannot force that upon it's citizens. For those religions, the clothing is a way of life. You may not agree with it but it doesn't hurt you one bit. Like I said, asking them to not wear the clothing in public is like asking a Christian to stop believing in God while in public. Not happening.

[lazor 22]

I do agree with the fact that Muslims shouldn't build 25 mousqes in one city when we can't put a church in there countries. But there is freedom of religion (atleast in America) so I can't complain.

[coastergeekrtc]

Yea that's more of a problem with the Muslim countries than the religion itself.

[Maxlaam]

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Mind reading this before you go bash him again.
http://www.sscoaster...es-rules-11029/

[fantom]

I see the BNP has reached its country's youth. Interesting.

[Old_Hag]

I have to agree with coastergeek on this one. Not really a clear solution. What I'm trying to say is that they should be allowed to wear them almost all of the time, but when they need to be identified (like at an airport) it could be mandatory for an identification check.


CA: Contradictory because you said they can't build mosques, but you already have established countless churches in pretty much every place in the world.

Also, you have no evidence of a Christian church being torn down in a Muslim country. Please, provide me with evidence--also, since the Muslim countries you are probably thinking about (Middle Eastern area) are virtually 100% Muslim, leaving absolutely no need for a Church. However, in your area, there are quite obviously enough Muslims there to have a legitimate reason to build their houses of worship.

Oh look. I found another contradiction: "I'm not disrespecting the rights of other people"
"they shouldn't be able to practice that religion" ......What? Your saying the majority has power over the minority, or in other words your discriminating against the minority.

"How was I disrespecting someone's religion?" -- Headscarfs are pretty much required by their faith, so forcing them to not wear them at all is definitely not the right way to go.

Although I do agree with you on the language part (permanently settling in a country without knowing their language is not going to be beneficial in any way).
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I don't want this to turn into a flame war. CA, it would be nice if you just stopped calling me a "Tard" (it makes you look very immature anyway). Trust me, insulting people because they don't agree with you isn't going to get you very far.

[lazor 22]

You wanna be the one to go over there and propose a church or temple? The fact that Islam is the only religion allowed by law is all the evidence you need.

[The KNex Weasel]

The oldest church in the USA was founded in 1638 by an English-born immigrant, if that says something.

In the 21st century, the USA may be "the international powerhouse of the world," but until about the 1950s, northern Europe had the biggest impact on life (mostly because of the two World Wars).

[lazor 22]

And CA, England (and America) is not a Christian nation. It is a nation of Christians. If you call yourself a Christian nation you are no better then a Muslim nation.

[griffon14]

They should be publicly illegalisided in England IMO. This is because we are a Christian country, not a fewking Muslim country

This is why the pilgrams left for the new world.