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#41 Maverix

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:13 PM

if it flys through the immlemann then you should make it taller and you should also make the top not as tight and you good but it is smooth.

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#42 coastermaniac

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:17 PM

Your pull-in is way too big(compared to the rest) and your top of immelmann way to small get the top bigger and its perfect. Keep it up.


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#43 Antinos

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Posted 06 February 2008 - 08:41 PM

Everything seems out of proportion. The turn before the drop should be smaller in radius and the immelmann should be much bigger.

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#44 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 09:17 AM

The reason the immelmann is that small is because I need two of the same size immelmanns right after each other. So I need the speed, but I will make it a bit bigger and the top less sharp. Actually, the second one will be a dive loop.

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#45 Maverix

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 03:05 PM

they don't need to be the same size they just need to make it through cleanly and with some but not a ton of speed.

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 03:35 PM

Yeah, don't make them the same height. Make each element as tall as possible to keep speed.

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#47 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 07 February 2008 - 04:01 PM

I just thought it would be cool for them to be the same height. I have finished the immelmann and made it a bit taller. Update probably tonight.

PS: It doesn't really fly through the immelmann, it just gets through at moderate speed.

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:05 PM

Sorry about the long break, but I have an update! I finished the immelmann and the pullout, and started the dive loop. I know the immelmann could still be a bit bigger, but I don't want to mess it up anymore. Pics

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#49 fastman xc

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:18 PM

hmm... a new coaster going up about 10 miles away from me.... I gotta go check it out... ;)

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#50 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:20 PM

haha^:tmbs I have just noticed that the immelmann's twist is bumpy. I will fix it.

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#51 fastman xc

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:24 PM

the twist is passable, but go ahead and smoothen it. so far the coaster looks nice, maybe save for a few details on the pre-drop turn.

ALSO: I think you should not do a dive loop, but keep what you have and make it a stengel dive. That would be sweet.

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#52 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:34 PM

This probably sounds dumb, but can someone explain a stengel dive for me? I have never really understood them.

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#53 fastman xc

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:38 PM

from my understanding, it enters, goes up, banks, reaches the top and turns, like, 45 degrees, and then unbanks as it goes back down.

what you would do there is just flatten out while turning to parallel the lift, then unbank as you go back down

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#54 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 04:49 PM

Thanks! I will do that. Sounds cool.

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#55 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 06:55 PM

Sorry for dp again:p, but I have another question. Is a stengel dive kinda like a small overbanked turn?

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#56 msoccerkidm

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 07:43 PM

i went to google and typed in stengel dive, and it came up with this(best pic)
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#57 Cardsandcoasters

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 07:53 PM

Yeah, maybe you could do that, then an immelmann?

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#58 Maverix

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 08:20 PM

^^yeah its that or the second overbank on the second half of Mavericks course (in my sig on the left)

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#59 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 09 February 2008 - 09:10 PM

Thanks guys! This really helps.

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#60 fastman xc

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Posted 10 February 2008 - 07:35 AM

yet it doesn't need to be overbanked, either.

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