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#21 BBaller347

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 03:54 PM

Looks great to me. The only thing I can nitoic is the drop after the camel-back looks a tad straight. Maybe not even a tad, I just can't think of a word that means smaller than that:). The hammerhead is a great idea. In the picture, it got cut off. Is that all you have done of it?

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#22 Fraggie

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 04:00 PM

why is nobody replying? anyway, i have a question. how do you connect 3 or 4 tube supports in the same spot? like on jogumpie's speed o' fear, the helix thing after the buckel, how do you connect more than one tube supportin one spot. here is his picture, but i cant tell how he did it.
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#23 the_burrito_master

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 04:46 PM

that's a tough one.you could make a short tube coming out of the ground and connect them all on one of the rods sticking up with a hinge.


#24 RightWayTrey

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:05 PM

You should make stronger footers, like the ones gump made. You may not even need any horizontal tubes then.
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I don't how gump made the connection with the four tubes. You should experiement with it and see what you can come up with.

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#25 Fraggie

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:54 PM

ok here is the hammerhead. the second half is not done but i just wanted to check the shaping. i am going to add latteral supports to the back and sides of the hammerhead. here are the pictures.
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here is what i am plannig with the supports.
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#26 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 07:08 PM

That looks great. If it doesn't shake, you should keep the supports the way they are, it looks good. If it does though, you can add laterals. Good job, I can't wait to see what's next!

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#27 Mikecoastermaniac

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:50 PM

I don/t see why you guys think that the black/orange ladder supports are weak, I really think the other ones are by far weaker. Because, even though they are connected to the ground the are only connected by the small white rods. Where as the ladders are connected directly into the granite rod pushing it into the ground, giving you more strength, and they are directly conneted to the support. As the white rods levitate the support off the ground connected to the white star, and the white rods have more a change popping out of the white connector.

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#28 the_burrito_master

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 12:14 AM

^but when they're on orange connectors there's a lot of lateral motion ,unless you have the support coming off the same angle as the track then it's stronger.

Mostly I just don't like how a big fat tube is on 2 skinny little legs.

wow that will be a lot of tubes I don't think you need most of them in fact maybe just one really looks necessary... Oh the one on the pull out/in that goes horizontal between each pull in/out.

Edit: oh yeah shaping is awesome my man!


#29 Fraggie

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:39 PM

ok, i finished the hammerhead and will get pictures when i have the next hill started. and thanks for the comments!


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Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:44 PM

This actually looks incredible, well done.

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#31 Fraggie

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:18 PM

ok, i have a question, do you think i should just do a speed hill over the supportsfor the first hill? just have the train go really fast over it and not have it go really high? what do you think?


#32 DDRman732865

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 04:03 PM

No, have the hills be as high as possible. This is tube supports, they probably couldn't handle the speed, and they would lose speed.


#33 Fraggie

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 01:39 PM

update. i just went ahead and finished the hill. this is basically as high as it can go because it loses a lot of speed in the hammerhead. i am going to add a few lateral supports to that to try and preserve some speed. but i dont know what to do next. i have a picture of the space i have but i want it to stay compact. if anyone has any suggestions, feel free to sy them. anyways, heres the pictures.
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i just had an idea. what if i move the lateral supports for the first hill to the other side and have either an mcbr or two hills instead of one big one?
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#34 ~stεεlspectrum~

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 02:33 PM

That looks really nice. I'd like to see a more interesting layout though...maybe you could make a MCBR next, with a turning drop under the lift? Some stengel dives and/or helixes would be nice too.


#35 Ccron10

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:52 PM

Depending on how much speed is left on the trains, you could possibly add another bunny hill, but have it interact with the supports. You could have it leap over the first and second lateral supports, start dropping through the biggest lateral support and go just below the last two supports. It would add a good headchopper effect.


#36 BBaller347

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:05 PM

Looks amazing! I say after the last camel-back, make a hill or buckel-type element over the first drop's pullout.


#37 Ricbun

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 04:33 AM

I think you shall make the hill that you have now make there the max hight that you can and then a rising turn over the first drop's pull out in a MCBR, and maybe then a 270* turning drop out of the MCBR in some hill's or helix's.

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#38 Fraggie

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 01:31 PM

ok, i made a helix. tell me what you think.
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#39 SwimZONE

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 02:55 PM

That looks awesome! I can't believe I've been missing this! Does it have much speed left after the helix? Video?


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#40 Fraggie

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 03:24 PM

^it has very little speed, i am just turning into the station. and no tests videos until the very end when it is a complete circuit.