216 replies to this topic

[Dakanektr]

yeah, thats where

the gap splits us into designers and wannabes-----sad thing......

[Stealthy350Z]

^^Well for one, CP/HP have 2 great crews of

mechanics, and they have trouble keeping their rockets open. SFGADV has horrible

mechanics, they can't even keep all the rides they have now open. This ride will

have a ton of downtime, probably as much as TTD, the one difference is I don't

think this coaster will be down for more than 1-2 weeks unlike TTD.

[Adam_Deux]

HPRenegade, I have to agree with you on that.

I also think that with 3 years of die-hard studying and testing you could work

the bugs out of the hydraulic launch. Also, wasn't there a rumor floating around

that the 2480 foot thing could be for another kiddie coaster? I read that somewhere. .

. oh well.

[Tyrant]

*sigh* more SF bashing.....start something else new,

its getting old.....

-Tyrant

[Antinos]

Looks like I started something.

[MillenniumMan310]

Its true!!!

Looks like this will be a

record breaking rip off of ttd. Kind of funny, i mean, they put a picture of ttd in the

background .

And ofcoarse this coaster will have down, every coaster has downtime its first year,

and the bigger ti is, usually the more downtime it has.

[ChEtCoAsTa]

OMW... enough said.

[sixflagsfreak56]

And it's only fifty minutes from my house...

*heaven*

And for those who are bashing on my home park-

If you haven't been to the park this year, then shut your trap. We got a

new GM and he has done a great job planting flowers, cleaning up the park, and it

looks beautiful. Yes, it's not the cleanest park, and yes, it's probebly going

to be a clone, but still. You CP fans are jelous obviously because we get something

that puts your coaster in the grond. Obviously, Six Flags is trying to get out of debt

and put themselves on the map. Yes, it will have downtime. But so have all the other

rocket coasters! I don't hear you bashing on Hersheypark for buildings

one or Knott's. But then when Six Flags comes around, you guys start saying

how dirty our park and how unwell the maintence is. NEWS FLASH-we aren't

CP. And we never will be. I don't care. Now I can't turn around and

start bashing on CP because I've never been there, but for those who have

never been to SFGAdv and are bashing the park, how about you come down to the

park and have a look at a true american theme park.

[Physix]

I personally lean to CF parks, just because I own

stock in it. But I don't hate SF, I just think that some of their park (SFEG)

aren't run very well. GADV sounds like an awesome park, can't wait to

get there. Especially with this new coaster, but I do feel for CP, they try so hard to

have the tallest all the time, now it's SF's turn. They really need it to,

seeing as how their doing as a company.

[MillenniumMan310]

SFF56. Ive been to both CP and GAdv, gadv is

my hometown park and we are about the same distance away from it. After going to

parks like CP, IOA, Dorney, then going to gadv you really can see a big difference

between the parks. I like SF for the sole reason of there great coaster collection, but

it pisses me off when i go to the park and there rides are either not open, or are

running such low capacity that a normel 20 minute wait at like CP turns into an hour

wait at gadv. I know for a fact with this coaster ti will be the same. This ride will

have unbarable waits and extensive downtime, just as much as ttd or more. This will

create serious problems with the GP, because its pretty odvious SF is going to

advertise this coaster to death, and not have it open when the people come. CP did an

awesome job making people aware that ttd might not be open when they come, so

there not 100% pissed when they go, i doubt sf will do the same. I feel this coaster

will not only be in bad shape itself, but will create problems for rides like chiller, which

because they are so worried about this ride the maitnrnce team might give up on

chiller and have it closed for another season. Gadv has alot of work to do before it

regains my full respect. Trust me, if you have been to CP, youd be thinking the same

as me.

Besides, look at the Golden Ticket awards, Nitros rated higher

than ttd, so chances are this coaster isnt going to be "the best coaster in the

world", just another
record breaker until another park comes along and

beats it.

[sixflagsfreak56]

I disagree with the maintence problem. They DO have

a staff problem, but they dont have a maintence problem. How many guys do you see

working on TTD when it breaks down? Three. How often in the day are

GADV's maintence people seen at the park? Not often. So while a normal day

is going and this ride breaks down, maintence will be ready on hand. And because of

the other rocket coasters out there, Six Flags has probebly been watching the other

parks on how often it breaks down and what the problems are. Every ride has

problems. It's just a thing man-kind will never figure out. I think the statement

that GADV will have more downtime is false because Intamin has been working on

ways to improve on the rocket coaster. Will this coaster have downtime. Yes. Will it

break down? Yes. Will the lines be long? You bet. But thats not stopping them from

building this ride. It's just company wars. There will always be the fight for the

tallest, and fastest ride out there. Don't get jelous. CP will probebly come back

with something better then our ride. Thats just how happens and how CP does

business.

[MillenniumMan310]

I dont mind if this has long lines, all new coasters do, ill

just be mad if the lines are longer then they have to because of poor capacity. This

coaster should have 6 trains like ttd, and run atleast 5 every day, while being very

quick with checking restraints and such.

Has intamin been working on

there launch problems? Ofcoarse but that still doesnt help any. Im not just bashing

gadv maintnence when i say it will have down timw, its just common sense. a coaster

thats shorte yet taller and faster than ttd, thats asking for problems. While hydraulic

launch technology is a few years old, the fact that this is going to be a faster launch

than ttd still shows that this is still pretty much a new thing, that will have problems.

Im not blaiming SFgadv if they have these problems, its the way they handle it that im

not sure of...

[Westside7th]

[quote]Originally posted by sixflagsfreak56@Sep 22 2004, 06:29

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[b]But thats not stopping them

from building this ride. It's just company wars. There will always

be the fight for the tallest, and fastest ride out there. Don't get

jelous. CP will probebly come back with something better then our ride.

Thats just how happens and how CP does

business.

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Cedar Point is not competing against SFGAdv! The two

parent companies may be competing in the big picture but this one coaster is no threat

to Cedar Point. It might be a threat to Cedar Fair parks nearby, but Cedar Point will

not be affected by this coaster. Building the tallest and fastest coaster is a marketing

scheme, no a "company war." They are competing for profit, not record

titles! Geez, and I thought you knew something about roller coasters!

And what do you mean by "our ride"? You don't own it.

[Dakanektr]

dammit, dp isnt

gonna get ripped off from this!Hydra will kick this rockets butt! I went to

GADV the first day it opened. THey do have horrible staff, i think this rocket is going

to have problems with restraints-launching them quickly will have the staff becoming

unaware and may cause a flyout of passengers! i know its not likely, but it

scares me how lazy medusas staff was, imagine that on the ROCKET!

Edited by Tyrant - Watch your language and reduce the

"!!!!!!!!!!!"

stuff....

[ChEtCoAsTa]

Well, all i can say is:

What

coaster's going to have the extreme rush of downtime combined with the insane

twist of unoriginality!?

[sixflagsfreak56]

The only problem I have right now is how you guys are

disrespecting my home park. And yes, I do know a thing or to about cosaters,

business is another story. I'm not arguing or yelling at anyone, but you say all

these bad things that arent true. For the millionth time, SIX FLAGS IS NOT CP.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE DOWNTIME, PROBEBLY A LOT, YES STAFF

MAY MAKE THINGS A LITTLE SLOWER. But who cares, thats what makes Six

Flags different. I don't have a problem with anything they do. Now, stop saying

"that park is disquesting and it will have downtime." This is a topic about

how TTD MIGHT, I repeat MIGHT, and I'll say it again, MIGHT lose it's

records.

[MillenniumMan310]

For the

millionth time, SIX FLAGS IS NOT CP. IT'S GOING TO HAVE

DOWNTIME, PROBEBLY A LOT, YES STAFF MAY MAKE THINGS A

LITTLE SLOWER. But who

cares

I care very much, because

although im critizing SF i still want to ride the thing. I dotn want to go to the park 10

times next season and only ride this thing once or twice because it was only open for 2

visits.

And about six flags not being cp, that true, but sf really doesnt have

an excuse not to be as good a cf parks. This park being owned by SF isnt a

reasonable excuse for this ride having more downtime than it should and having lower

capacity than it should.

This coaster will be a reacord breakor, unless they

lied on the invitation, which is unlikely.

The

only problem I have right now is how you guys are disrespecting my home

park.

Im disrespecting my hometown park

because they havent given me a reason to respect ti yet.

[Dakanektr]

Might is a weak

word, side somewhere already.

[Tyrant]

Danker, here is an idea, start making some

sense.....

I have no idea what you mean in that post.....

-Tyrant

[Dakanektr]

I was talking about

SSF56 and how many times he said might, but MM130 be me to posting right after

him.