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[~stεεlspectrum~]

This coaster is a break-off of Eclipse, which is cancelled. I figured Id better make a new thread, even though the only thing different is the lift (I never started the layout).

So heres my idea for a layout:
station, 195* turn, 3.2 ft. lift, turning drop (http://rcdb.com/ig1549.htm?picture=32), loop around lift (http://rcdb.com/ig470.htm?picture=12), immelmann, zero-G roll? the rest is up to your opinion

On to the pics:





If you have any layout or name ideas, please comment. I will be working on the turning drop tonight, but mine never look right so please help.

[DDRman732865]

Good luck with the loop around the lift. Might I refer you to this picture:



Use it instead of Batman.

[Maverix]

Well it's nice to see a n00b starting small for once. but I think you should go with a more simple layout. Do a 180* turning drop like on Devestator into a loop immelmann and then a few turns and/or hills and a corkscrew. Not the most exciting I know but you should build your skills first.

[coastermaniac]

^Hey, it's my layout.

Well do a simple looper like Maverix said but make it short, when you make short layout you can focus on supporting the coaster.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

^^^ Thank you. I like Kumba's drop much better than Batman's.
^^ No. Im not a n00b. And the only reason Im making it this small is so I can fit it in my van to take it for a school project. And I consider Devastator's layout to be very interesting, especially the drop. Sorry to sound like Im denying everything you said, but the only part you got right is building my skills first (which you have not seen yet, apparently )
^ Yes Im not gonna try to do a real long layout. However, supports are not my worry. The only hard part is getting the shaping right.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

Okay so instead of a turning drop like on kumba im doing a turning dip (mantis) into a zero-G roll drop thingy.

pictures:
a drwing of the layout im thinking of doing. vertical lines=station:


side of drop and weird supports at bottom:

POV:


lift and overbaking into station:

zero-G roll before the overbank:


EDIT: sorry for the double post

[DDRman732865]

Start banking it before it drops, and it looks a bit oddly shaped.



Nice to see a new member using TH's zero-g roll.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

Okay update:

I have not yet done this, but I will be unbanking the turn a tad

Pics:

Overview of drop:


Side View:

Reverse POV:



On to the video:


The drop will keep twisting and then loop around the lift. The only problem is that sometimes the cars rub on the track because its so tight. Also in the fourth pic you can see that the track is lumpy where the track connectors are.
Please comment!

[NitroDude319]

Yes you are a n00b because you started this month BTW a name can be bolt

[iggfish123]

well.... its very bumy. when the turn starts there is a huge bump. i say go back and fix the turn. the roll is very bumpy too. i say add flexis and more cross ties. and u pointed it by urself the roll is too tight.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

^^no, i only joined a month ago. i have built knex coasters for a long time.
^that 'bump' is \/, and please give helpful criticism, not just say it's 'bumy'. lol. and im not adding more flexis so i dont run out and i made it so the car works fine.

I need your guys' input, but should i make the drop smooth or should it have a horizontal pre-turn straight part like on a lot of floorless loopers?

[NitroDude319]

Have it smooth^

[/\ero]

^^It still means you are a noob to the site. And by the way that is majorly bumpy.

[the_burrito_master]

to fix those bumps twist and turn your cross ties until they sorta click into position. if you do this with every cross tie it will fix most of your bumps in the role.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

to fix those bumps twist and turn your cross ties until they sorta click into position. if you do this with every cross tie it will fix most of your bumps in the role.

I have tried that, but the problem is that both sides of the track are going different directions, and the crossties dont bend easily. Will update tomorrow.

[the_burrito_master]

^it's also from a lack of cross ties a put a few 3 or 4 more on there.

[~stεεlspectrum~]

^okay i put more track ties on and it looks a little better:



but i think im gonna make the loop parallel to the lift, not around it, mostly because it looks weird for the drop to twist 235* and because i can. I will also move the station to the other side of the lift and make the pre-lift smaller so it takes up less space. i want to keep it about 3 feet wide and no longer than 6.5 feet long.





If you have any ideas for some new or interesting inversions, please tell me. So far i am already going to make a zero-g stengel dive.

[DDRman732865]

a zero-g stengel dive.

Never heard that one before...

The drop looks very abnormal, but that's probably because I've never seen one like that. The only thing I don't like about it is that it goes vertical. Might I refer you to these:







You may want to change your layout, because it's too much like Coaster55's Telsa.

[NitroDude319]

Your pre drop dosent look so well it dips to much.

[Coaster55]

You could probably get the loop around the lift, just turn the part after the heartline more towards the drop. If you still want to keep the drop parallel though, try to do something before the loop, since it looks a lot like my layout.