^What are you talking about?
Here's
something else that was mentioned on thepointol.com. What if they combined a dual
launch. Added LIM's to take some of the pressure off the cable of the Hydrolic
launch.
TTD accident
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jmrtc89
, Jul 13 2004 10:54 AM
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 02:59 PM
Personally, I think the LIMs would start to lift the
cable! But I dont know.
cable! But I dont know.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:23 PM
What if they find a stronger cable. They also need to
find one that is not brittle and can handle the cold, heat, friction, and stress. I know
that silk is stronger than a cable of the same diameter. Couldn't they try that. It
sounds weird but it is stronger.
find one that is not brittle and can handle the cold, heat, friction, and stress. I know
that silk is stronger than a cable of the same diameter. Couldn't they try that. It
sounds weird but it is stronger.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:31 PM
Well I think they should put someOriginally posted by gforce@Jul 14 2004,
02:40 PM
^What are you talking about?
electricity into the first or third segment of magnets, so that it would help push the train
a long and/or relieve the cable some. Just an idea.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 03:45 PM
^In the emergency brakes in case of a roll back?
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:11 PM
Why are people talking about a new launch type?
Compressed air is the only other launch that would work at this point in time and think
about the cost to replace the launch...
The media is infamous for blowing
things out of porportion. They just showed the accident on our local news and they
made it sound like it was Intamins fault.
Compressed air is the only other launch that would work at this point in time and think
about the cost to replace the launch...
The media is infamous for blowing
things out of porportion. They just showed the accident on our local news and they
made it sound like it was Intamins fault.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:29 PM
Thats because the media tries to scare people into
watching whats on next.
Do you ride coaster? You can
DIE!!! At 11.
watching whats on next.
Do you ride coaster? You can
DIE!!! At 11.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:32 PM
I am now thinking the best thingOriginally posted by jumpboyb@Jul 14 2004, 05:11
PM
Why are people talking about
a new launch type? Compressed air is the only other launch that would work at this
point in time and think about the cost to replace the launch...
The media is
infamous for blowing things out of porportion. They just showed the accident on our
local news and they made it sound like it was Intamins fault.
would be to shorten up the trains. That would put less pressure on the cable.
However, it might make lines longer.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:35 PM
Stronger cable and pay more attention to it during
inspections. Simple.
inspections. Simple.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:36 PM
In that case, they'll have to inspect the cable
after every launch.
after every launch.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 04:54 PM
Why would they add more inspections like that?
Besides even if they did have a stronger cable and paid more attention. That
doesn't mean taht the cable won't snap right after they inspect it.
Besides even if they did have a stronger cable and paid more attention. That
doesn't mean taht the cable won't snap right after they inspect it.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 05:21 PM
Yes, to helpOriginally posted by gforce@Jul 14 2004,
03:45 PM
^In the emergency brakes in
case of a roll back?
launch it. I would hope that it does not cost to much and that it shouldn't be that
hard to do.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 05:29 PM
I think some of you are looking at this the wrong way.
the cable didnt snap. it was frayed as it said in the article. if the cable snapped
completely the train wouldnt get up the tower. the cable is made up of smaller cables
wrapped around each other like the cables of a suspension bridge. the cable tore in
some area and sent little shards flying off. the cable was abviously faulty and had
some tear or weakened thread within the whole cable. it is even possible that the
weakened thread was out of sight so no machanic could spot it.
accidents
will happen and as coasters start becoming larger and faster it will be a greater
concern. ttd is almost a prototype. this is the first coaster to be so tall and fast.
engineers at intamin have used the same principles on smaller coasters and have used
computer models, but there is no way to know for sure what other problems will arise
from a coaster like this. it is almost a good thing for ttd to be experiencing problems
because now engineers can look back and know what not to do when they make their
next strata that launches even faster than ttd.
the cable didnt snap. it was frayed as it said in the article. if the cable snapped
completely the train wouldnt get up the tower. the cable is made up of smaller cables
wrapped around each other like the cables of a suspension bridge. the cable tore in
some area and sent little shards flying off. the cable was abviously faulty and had
some tear or weakened thread within the whole cable. it is even possible that the
weakened thread was out of sight so no machanic could spot it.
accidents
will happen and as coasters start becoming larger and faster it will be a greater
concern. ttd is almost a prototype. this is the first coaster to be so tall and fast.
engineers at intamin have used the same principles on smaller coasters and have used
computer models, but there is no way to know for sure what other problems will arise
from a coaster like this. it is almost a good thing for ttd to be experiencing problems
because now engineers can look back and know what not to do when they make their
next strata that launches even faster than ttd.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 05:42 PM
I was talking off of what youOriginally posted by jumpboyb@Jul 14 2004, 05:54
PM
Why would they add more
inspections like that? Besides even if they did have a stronger cable and paid more
attention. That doesn't mean taht the cable won't snap right after they
inspect it.
said, they should inspect it better. Plus, a stronger cable may mean less
flexibility.
think some of you are looking at this the
wrong way. the cable didnt snap. it was frayed as it said in the article. if the cable
snapped completely the train wouldnt get up the
tower
Yes, but obviously it was
on the verge of snapping.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 06:06 PM
I hate how everyone says thatOriginally posted by gforce@Jul 14 2004, 06:42 PM
they should inspect it better.
"CP should do this", "CP should have done that". I am sure
they inspect TTD very thoroughly. You just can't see every little thing,
otherwise, there would be no accidents. I don't see this as a big deal.
TTD's cable has snapped before and this time, only a few pieces got loose.
Thank goodness the cable didn't snap and hit the riders! MF's cable
snapped before, too. I think CP just might need to replace the cable more often but I
don't work there and only know what the news tells me so I could be wrong but
I am sure CP has it under control.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 06:32 PM
^Hey why don't you show the rest of my
post in that quote!
That's not what I said, that's what
someone else said! That's like if someone said I don't like the color
red, but I do like red cars. And your quote.
sorry, I just needed to
straighten that out
post in that quote!
That's not what I said, that's what
someone else said! That's like if someone said I don't like the color
red, but I do like red cars. And your quote.
I do
like red
sorry, I just needed to
straighten that out
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 08:20 PM
Ok this is what the news said. Riders were injured. Many riders have greese burnsOriginally posted by gforce@Jul 14 2004, 04:53 PM
They more and likely never madeI think
the many small pieces came up into the riders at 120 mph and hit
them.
it to 120 mph.Steel cables aren't known to break into
little pieces though.
They sure
areThis is a terrible year for the amusement park
industry.
IMO it’s not near as bad
as last yearThat was the 3rd time the cable snapped.
what about the sled? I mean if the cable snaps it will go forward, the slep is under the
train, when the sled comes out from under the train it would explode. Thats what I
think will happen. Intiman better be careful or they will get there @$$
seued by Cedar Fair.
I don’t think
Cedar Fair would sue. Intamin and Cedar Point are on a pretty good friendly basis,
but it’s weaking. So, it's still a possiablity.
Another thing is. I have read
from eyewitness accounts from people on such sites as the pointol.com and various
other point sites that these big peices of metel were certainly not very big at all. The
news is blowing this way out of porportion! The news said two people went to
the hospital. Yes, two people did go to the hospital, but they were rejected because
they weren't hurt. If you listen to the news on some channels they squeeze in at
the end. "Authorities have stated the worse injurys were nothing more than the
size of a bee sting. All this was, was little specks of metal.
The only reason
two people went to the hospital was because they want to get some money out of this,
and now they probably won't get any.(One thing that makes me mad, is people
who sue over everything)
There was no reports of people getting hit in the
eye with debris. That's the only concern I really had after hearing how small the
peices are.
Now on the news they had a kid who said he was hit in the head
with debris and I think that was the funniest thing I've ever seen on the news.
There was no noticable scratches, cuts, or anything at all.
As for TTD
re-opening this season, I think there is a slim chance it will re-open. However even
little things flying off, is too dangerous to operate a ride. I think Intamin and the
engineers working on this ride, are going to have to think up a new design. Now even
if they have to use something like LIM's by putting new track in could possiably
happen. Even though LIM's probably won't get the coaster over the hump,
they'll think of something!
and many were hit by large medal peices. The new reporter said"all riders
returned to the station bleeding" "A boy was hit in the chest by medal
peice and is in his chest. Due to privicy issues they couldnt relese his condition."
Probly because he wasnt in the hospital...
I really do hate how the media
always "juces" things up
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 08:39 PM
Yeah, the media is blowing this way out of porportion.
It's funny how all these news site contradict themselves.
Take a look
at this one.
http://www.wkyc.com/...ry.asp?id=20729
That's the closest to the "truth" I have found. They still left
things out though.
It's funny how all these news site contradict themselves.
Take a look
at this one.
http://www.wkyc.com/...ry.asp?id=20729
That's the closest to the "truth" I have found. They still left
things out though.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 08:43 PM
Yeah, I went over to pointbuzz and they seemed to
have the 'truth' posted their also. This still could have been much larger of
a deal, especially if one hit someone in the eye.
have the 'truth' posted their also. This still could have been much larger of
a deal, especially if one hit someone in the eye.
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Posted 14 July 2004 - 08:51 PM
CONFINCATE RIDERS! thats probly one of the
most stupidest F up things I have ever heard. And a good story with some good shots
of the rides.
most stupidest F up things I have ever heard. And a good story with some good shots
of the rides.
