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#21 TheSUCKCrew

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:36 PM

I think I was the first one to come up with this idea, and my only intention was to just create tutorials that are better, but mostly, cheaper.
That way noone would buy his tutorials, and he would go bankrupt.

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#22 HamenChiz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:44 PM

Let's BAN the holy F*****.

(Sorry for the cuswords)

I agree with Rollerkid500 & Knexrule11
Selling manuals would help the site a lot, to gain money for maintainance.


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#23 TheSUCKCrew

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:50 PM

No no no no no! This should be free to use. Can you imagine someone spending months for saving enough money for their first SS, and then they also have to pay for a tutorial? That is hearthless IMO.

Max Ibarra, I just found out that you can "return your item" and get your money back:)
I'm deffinatly going to do that after my 6-manuals set arrived and I copyed them.



#24 LaMbChOpZ

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 05:53 PM

^Exactly what I did. The scam deserves the loss of money.

I bout his intermediate guide about a year ago, it sucked, a lot. the coaster itself was horrible, and overall it was just misleading. It says intermidiate guide, but its just an instruction booklet.

I advise not to buy any of his.

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#25 TheSUCKCrew

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 06:13 PM

YAAAAAY!!!!! I won the bid! As soon as he sends it to me, I can finally start building real quality coasters.
Darn, I'm so exited right now.

Btw, I payed only $0,99 for all 6 tutorials:)



#26 chaindogg33

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 09:45 PM

One more thing guys, here is an excerpt from one of his ebay sales descriptions (for the guides):

"Rather than just giving you another set of plain jane instructions on how to build a pre designed coaster. This manual goes furhter - the whole fun of building is desinged the coaster on your own and not having to follow someone elses design. Trust me it's a much more rewarding expierience - and that's what I aim to do.


This manual was created by me, and is copyrighted material"

Coyrighted??? he stole your ideas and is claiming that it is all HIS stuff and it is protected by law...what an ass.

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#27 commando

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 09:51 PM

Ya someone needs to have a chat with this guy. Thats a load of BS. We sould start trying to sell a copy of his (stolen) manuel and see what he does.


#28 HamenChiz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 09:59 PM

I got a good idea, if we could only convice people to go to SSCoasters.net, they would get free instructions, thus not spending their money for a Booklet full of stealed ideas.


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#29 The Stig

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:12 PM

How did he manage to make instructions for all those coasters anyway?


#30 HamenChiz

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:41 PM

^ What do you mean? Which coasters?


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#31 Maxlaam

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 10:50 AM

The staff is going to review all the manuals soon and check for all the stolen material (photos, tutorials).

Edit: I was about to contact a friend of the family who is an international lawyer (he could give us some tips) but all the items are removed now!


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#32 ForgotToGrowUp

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:13 PM

I'm sure Danny Cohen monitors this place, it's where he gets his material.

He probably decided to lay low for a while

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#33 Jogumpie

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:32 PM

IP-ban works well. Also got rid of his items on eBay.


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#34 LaMbChOpZ

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:50 PM

^ What do you mean? Which coasters?


He has instructions for making some of his "custom" coasters.

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#35 Knexrule11

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 01:54 PM

Whats the lowest price we can sell for on ebay? Isn't it 1 cent? Why don't we sell manuals for 1 cent on Ebay? Or maybe $.50. Than it's cheap, and it wouldn't be possible for that guy to make a comeback. Our manuals will rat him out. Than we say "Official SSCoasters Manuals". We say that the other guy stole some of SSC's ideas, but he only took a few, and that we have alot more at SSC. I think that would bring in some people, and then there practically free like we want them. It's a win/win in my opinion.

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#36 Maxlaam

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:09 PM

I've seen those manuals myself and they are all straight copies. Anyway his items are removed and we will keep tracking his activities on e-bay.


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#37 LaMbChOpZ

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:20 PM

^Good!

^^Well why don't they just visit SSC to get the copies. Do we really need all the money? (Although I do know that it does take $$ to run SSC)

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#38 chaindogg33

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:22 PM

I'm glad the issue "took care of itself" so quickly ;)

I personally don't know where i stand on the idea of SSC selling manuals on EBAY. I like the idea that it could put Danny out of business but I have to agree with Jogumpie and Max that SSC and it's ideas are totally free for everyone to use. If we really want to make money for the site then WE the members should just make donations. As a matter of fact, I'm going to make one now. When i think of all I've learned here and all I have been able to share in under one year, it's amazing.

Maybe if the staff or a group of members collaborate and make several "official" manuals, explaining the basics and telling others to join SSC, then sell them on EBAY for very cheap, I don't think it would be a horrible idea. But what MAX said about pictures of our homes being viewed by everyone is very true. So once again i'm really not sure where i stand on it.

Has anyone thought of the idea of trying to contact KNEX themselves directly to advertise for us on thier website as well as in thier new instruction manuals? Imagine buying a new micro ride from Toys R Us, and seeing an ad for SSC.net in the booklet?? You guys know that the original Screamin' Serpent set instruction manuals had an endorsement from ACE on the 1st page? Maybe KNEX would like SSC to "endorse" them too! I mean, knex can make SSC money by directing people to our site, but SSC definatley can make KNEX money as well, since once you are a member of SSC you start buying knex like crazy! I have placed many orders of parts that were not available on EBAY from the KNEX online store, and i'm sure others have too. I think that KNEX would be very proud of SSC and all the creations on here, seeing their products put to good use. Just an idea....

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#39 BGTKing

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:31 PM

SSCoasters was mentioned in a manual. I think it was the one with the video camera car.


#40 Maxlaam

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Posted 28 March 2011 - 02:48 PM

Extreme View Coaster :)


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