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#21 ~stεεlspectrum~

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 01:28 AM

^ He has no predrop right now; I think that would be a good length.
Take a look at some real coasters and compare it to yours. Notice how it's done turning before it's barely halfway down the drop. You need to make it turn around higher, and then drop down after that. Once you do that, it will be easier to stretch out your pullout also.


#22 metallicais1337

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 10:20 AM

^Let me guess: SFGAdv? I could tell by Nitro...


Anyways, you want your predrop to be longer, just like everyone else says, because right now it's not long enough. Although B:TR's predrop seems small, it actually goes until there's a noticeable decline, meaning that it really goes all the way until it's banked just a little. Oh, and if you think no predrops are long?

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#23 Britfag

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 11:05 AM

They're right, look at Nemesis Inferno's pre-drop, it's a fairly small invert, and yet, it's predrop is long enough to fit pretty much the whole train on it...
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#24 SwimZONE

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 12:46 PM

I think the end of the drop should be a bit farther away from the lift. It just doesn't look very good one right beside the other.

^Most B&M Inverts have loops right after the drop next to the lift.
You need to start making the drop flaten out higher up, then the pullout won't be cramped at the bottom.

^^Also, B:TR clones are all pretty much exactly like that.
I think that you could maybe make the pullout a little bigger and more spread out, but not too much otherwise it'll look distorted.

Make it more like this;

^no if he makes the pre drop that long it will look stupid


^ He has no predrop right now; I think that would be a good length.
Take a look at some real coasters and compare it to yours. Notice how it's done turning before it's barely halfway down the drop. You need to make it turn around higher, and then drop down after that. Once you do that, it will be easier to stretch out your pullout also.

^Let me guess: SFGAdv? I could tell by Nitro...
Anyways, you want your predrop to be longer, just like everyone else says, because right now it's not long enough. Although B:TR's predrop seems small, it actually goes until there's a noticeable decline, meaning that it really goes all the way until it's banked just a little. Oh, and if you think no predrops are long?
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They're right, look at Nemesis Inferno's pre-drop, it's a fairly small invert, and yet, it's predrop is long enough to fit pretty much the whole train on it...


I scrapped the turn, and will be starting completely over with the turn. I will update hopefully today.


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#25 SwimZONE

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:48 PM

DP, but UPDATE!!!
I finished the loop and Pull-Out

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Loop (NOT final)
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#26 griffon14

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:54 PM

the drop is fine but the loop needs some work.

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#27 metallicais1337

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

I think that if we had a side view of the drop, then it would be easier to see whether you fixed it or not. I think it looks good (except for the loop of course, which you said you would fix).

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#28 SwimZONE

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:14 PM

the drop is fine but the loop needs some work.


Thanks and I think I fixed it-will post pics tonight/tomorrow

I think that if we had a side view of the drop, then it would be easier to see whether you fixed it or not. I think it looks good (except for the loop of course, which you said you would fix).


FYI I scrapped the turn, and did it over, like I said in my update.


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#29 SwimZONE

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 08:52 PM

DP, but update. Finished loop, and next element. I know shaping is bad but it doesn't matter-I'm re-doing part of it, and taking out the bottom part of the trains. I felt like making flyer trains, so I did, but they aren't going to be a part of it. I will post pics in my next update.
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#30 metallicais1337

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 09:45 PM

Ummmmm..... I'm confused.

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#31 pkiknex25

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 09:47 PM

Wow...everyone is putting a loop on a flyer now...way to copy and be unoriginal guys...

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#32 metallicais1337

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 10:05 PM

^Lol, someone's bandwidth has exceeded (I'm referring to your sig) :P

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#33 KCB Designs

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 10:44 PM

^^Everyone has to copy you, your one of the best on this site, anyways, the loop is still horribly shaped, it needs to be tear-dropped, not circular. Like this...
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#34 metallicais1337

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 10:50 PM

^Why does everyone use that pic as an example? I swear I've seen that pic at least 10 times :P


Anyways, so I'm confused: is this an invert or a flyer? Because flyers don't have loops, but inverts don't have long periods of upside-down-ness...?

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#35 the_burrito_master

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 10:54 PM

it your crest of the dive loop is way to small. over all it looks well, good.

There's a bump going in to the loop.

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#36 SwimZONE

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 01:55 PM

*Bump* Update!
I think the loop is good now.
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Something's wrong with this immelman...
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Just a turn picture...
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Test video, yes I know it barely makes the immelman, but IDK how to fix that (well at least)
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#37 rollercoasterfanatic919

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 05:34 PM

It looks much better, but the loop should come out a bit more on the top two corners. For the immelmann, I just wouldn't use so many crossties, you don't have to. Everything else is good though.

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#38 SwimZONE

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:55 PM

^I tried to do that for the loop, but taking out the crossties would take a while...Not much layout left though.
Update:
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MCBR:
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New Flyer Cars:
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Youtube Video:


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#39 metallicais1337

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 07:58 PM

Why type in bold?

Looks pretty good, just make sure that right before and after the MCBR aren't stressed straight rods. The track seems to slightly bend a little bit.

Also, those flyer cars look sweet!

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#40 G Force

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 08:04 PM

The turn before the MCBR could use more banking, looks good otherwise.






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